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State of Palestine → Palestine, not moved, Talk:State of Palestine/Archive 6#Requested_rename (move) to Palestine 31 December 2010
State of Palestine → History of the State of Palestine, no consensus, Talk:State of Palestine/Archive 10#Proposal to rename article to "History of the State of Palestine" 7 April 2014
State of Palestine → Palestine, not moved, Talk:State_of_Palestine/Archive_12#Requested move 5 August 2015
State of Palestine → Palestine, no consensus, Talk:State of Palestine/Archive 15#Requested move 23 October 2017
State of Palestine → Palestine (state), not moved, Talk:State of Palestine/Archive 19#Requested move 5 March 2024
State of Palestine → Palestine, not moved, Talk:State of Palestine/Archive 19#Requested move 18 April 2024
Palestine → Palestine (disambiguation), moved, Talk:Palestine (disambiguation)#Requested move 29 June 2024
State of Palestine → Palestine, moved, Talk:Palestine/Archive 21#Requested move 31 December 2024

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Edit request 18 February 2025

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Description of suggested change: In the first sentence, "recognized by majority of UN member states" should be corrected. It should either say, "recognized by a majority of UN member states", or it should indicate the number of UN member states that have recognized Palestine.

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2600:4040:20AC:2900:A024:F1B5:3624:A2B1 (talk) 05:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 11:08, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add a link on "Palestine Liberation Organization" and "Palestinian Authority" in the note "e". Thank you, Legonin (talk) 17:48, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Already done.Rainsage (talk) 05:07, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit request 7 March 2025

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Description of suggested change: Please add a link to Palestine Liberation Organization and Palestinian Authority in the note f.

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Legonin (talk) 07:07, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Lova Falk (talk) 13:29, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Palestine is NOT a country! It is a territory within Israel. Palestinians are Israeli Muslims. 72.223.98.47 (talk) 09:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We do not say it is, so we cannot action this, no change requested.. Slatersteven (talk) 09:20, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The information in this article is false, and there should not be opinion based lies on wikipidia , check your sources and make sure it is based in fact and history . Palestine is a name of a colony, the reason why the arabs left is because they chose to leave when the 7 Arab armies attacked newly founded Israel they where not banished or kicked out. There is also no genocide in Gaza it is war and civilians die in war. 2406:2D40:9228:E10:2878:6248:B52E:73C6 (talk) 15:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is far too controversial and can't be actioned. Slatersteven (talk) 15:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unfolding

@Smallangryplanet: You said: CN tags are not for when you disagree with a source

Agreed, but both the reason parameter of the CN tag and my edit summary make it clear that I was not contesting the source, but rather pointing out that the oversimplified characterization of the UN special committee's content was at odds with its actual content: (1) "a genocide is unfolding" does not claim that a genocide has occurred—it could refer to a genocide predicted to happen in the foreseeable future. I think the key issue here is the set of possible meanings of the WP:WEASEL word "unfolding".

Princeton's Wordnet succinctly defines unfolding as "a developmental process". thefreedictionary.com lists a couple meanings for unfold (intransitive):

To develop or occur as a series of events or stages
To be revealed gradually to the understanding

The first definition reflects a transformation or development: the outcome of the series of events will not be the same as it was at the outset. The second definition reflects a transformation of our understanding, not specifying whether that change might be concurrent with a change in the thing being understood. Both reflect a transition, from one state [folded] to a different state [unfolded]. Until the unfolding is complete, the state is in transition, and the current state is left ambiguous unless otherwise clarified.

For example, the phrases "unfolding pandemic" and "unfolding recession" can describe things that are suspected of soon meeting a qualifying definition, but haven't yet gotten there. Though these phrases might carry a sense of palpable presence, the writer isn't committed to a specific timeframe. So at what point does an "unfolding genocide" change from a yet-to-be genocide into one that fully meets the definition?

If the UN special committee wanted to unambiguously state that Israel has committed genocide, they could have easily done so as straightforwardly as Amnesty International did. But they didn't. Instead, they used circumspect language. When I want to convey to someone that it's raining outside, I don't usually say that the sky is aligned with the properties of rain, or that the humidity circumstances might be consistent with rain.

Of course, editors need to summarize. But we need to avoid the type of WP:BIAS and WP:OR that can easily result from selective oversimplification of source ambiguities into allegedly unambiguous Wikivoice.

Dotyoyo (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

^ ^a ^b Bissio, Robert Remo, ed. (1995). The World: A Third World Guide 1995–96. Montevideo: Instituto del Tercer Mundo. p. 443. ISBN 978-0-85598-291-1.
^ ^a ^b Baroud, Ramzy (2004). Kogan Page (ed.). Middle East Review (27th ed.). London: Kogan Page. p. 161. ISBN 978-0-7494-4066-4.
^ ^a ^b Cite error: The named reference GA43177 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[Bissiop433-1] Bissio, Robert Remo, ed. (1995). The World: A Third World Guide 1995–96. Montevideo: Instituto del Tercer Mundo. p. 443. ISBN 978-0-85598-291-1.

[Pagep161-2] Baroud, Ramzy (2004). Kogan Page (ed.). Middle East Review (27th ed.). London: Kogan Page. p. 161. ISBN 978-0-7494-4066-4.

[GA43177-3] Cite error: The named reference GA43177 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).